
In this electric and deeply thought-provoking conversation, bestselling author and flow expert Steven Kotler joins Gillian Stovel Rivers to unpack the psychology, neuroscience, and cultural myths surrounding AI, abundance, burnout, and human potential. Together, they explore why fear around AI may be massively overhyped, why our ancient brains struggle in a world of infinite information, and why the future belongs to people who can continuously reinvent themselves.
This episode is both a wake-up call and an invitation: stop fearing the future and start training for it.


